Atheists rule the internet!

Sapient's picture

 Check out this video by Cult of Dusty in which he tears religion apart.  He talks about the inevitable end of Christianity and how the internet has caused religion to become a mocked and laughable idea.  The internet has made it possible to look religion up on a google search and find out that it is full of lies.  The internet has shown that atheism is the only logical position, and that using logic is a powerful weapon.

Cult of Dusty comes across like a cross between Christopher Hitchens, Penn Jillette, and George Carlin...

 

- Brian Sapient


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Brian37's picture

And people want to bitch

And people want to bitch about me?

There is nothing he has said that I have not said or the politically correct atheists have not said. To me all this guy is doing, and all I have ever done is say "THE MOON IS NOT MADE OF FUCKING CHEESE!"

I doubt seriously if this guy is anything like me, is advocating government force of the end of religion. If you listen to what he said "The ultimate murder weapon, is logic".

Same as "the pen is mightier than the sword."

Atheists are not blasphemous because we hate all believers. Atheists are blunt and blasphemous because we see a better future for humanity than dwelling in the past. Our anger is not a bloodthirsty kill anger. But "THE PACKERS WON THE FUCKING SUPER BOWL LAST YEAR, NOT THE CHARGERS YOU IDIOT".

That is where he is coming from, that is where I am coming from. It is 2012 and it makes no sense to him or me in an age of cell phones and knowledge of DNA to cling to stories about virgin births and zombie gods.

And he is right about the internet. Every time I see a story in the news about atheists, and check the web, the dominate responses are atheists.

KEEP IT UP GUYS!

Thanks for the video Sapient.

 

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Philosophicus's picture

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The more you study religion, the weaker it gets.  The more you study science and rationality, the stronger they get.  Spread the meme!  I've never heard of Cult of Dusty; I'll have to check out his YouTube channel.

Cpt_pineapple's picture

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? the Jews own the internet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the federal reserve,

And the federal reserve, politicians, military and don't forget the media.....

Tapey's picture

I am so glad the majority of

I am so glad the majority of atheists I know  are not anything like that, would annoy me to hell. For the most part christians are reasonable and do good things, the whole god thing when mixed with reasonable people turns out is not a big deal. Unreasonable people are always going to be unreasonable no matter their beliefs. If Kent Hovid or whatever his name is suddenly became an atheist do you really think he would be any more reasonable? Crazy people are crazy regardless of beliefs.

Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
No animal shall wear clothes.
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
No animal shall drink alcohol.
No animal shall kill any other animal.
All animals are equal.

Brian37's picture

Lets not get stuck on

Lets not get stuck on labels. Christians do good things. NO, humans do good things because socializing is an evolutionary trait.

And you as well, do not understand why he is "in your face". He is doing it for the same reason I pull my fangs out. It serves the purpose to serve warning to the theocratic nuts that we will not be quiet. It also serves the purpose of reminding people that NO religion, deserves a pedestal.

Again when you take the FULL context of that video, he doesn't demand the oppression of the religious. He doesn't demand laws banning religion. He is merely saying, your fantasies have nowhere to hide.

It is also a motivator for other atheists who might feel isolated or scared of being open and showing them they have nothing to fear.

Of course Christians can do good, but again, ANY human is capable of doing good. We are ALL also capable of doing bad. Christians in America make up the majority of America's prison population. If you go to India, you'd find mostly Hindu's in their prisions. If you went to Japan, you'd find mostly Buddhists and Shintos in their prisons.

MOST HUMANS are good. But their labels do not make them special nor does it automatically make them good or bad. No label invented morality. Morality is an evolutionary trait. And no religion, OR CLAIM, on any subject, deserves a pedestal.

He does not make all atheists look bad anymore than one Catholic priest means all Catholics are child molesters. He is an individual like all humans are, even if you don't like his delivery.

 

 

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Brian37's picture

Cpt_pineapple wrote:What are

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

What are you talking about? the Jews own the internet.

  

And all blacks are on welfare and are lazy. And Japanese pussy goes sideways. And all Catholics molest kids. And all Muslims are terrorists. And all atheists drink human blood and eat babies.

I know you were joking, but I hate it even when atheists miss the point of this guy's video. It is mistaking passion for hate.

Again, all he is doing is saying "FOR FUCKS SAKE WE KNOW WHAT DNA IS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR IT IS?"
 

Getting angry at him for his delivery would be like getting mad at Galileo for shouting "GOD DAMN IT, THE EARTH ROTATES AROUND THE SUN!"

I think he has a right to be angry and he stated lagit reasons to be angry. When you have fuckwads infecting politics and education with what should be kept in their houses of worship off the government dime, I think you have every right to get upset.

People who do not understand, INCLUDING ATHEISTS, this, need to go live as a non-Muslim in Iran or Saudi Arabia before they judge his blasphemy. People need to talk to any Christian or Jew or gay or closet atheist who live in those Muslim countries and ask them how horrible it is to merely use words, vs the REAL religious laws those minorities are forced to live under.

Religion does not deserve a pedestal. Claims on any subject do not deserve a pedestal. In civil society WE have the right to make any claim we want, that should be protected. BUT WE also have the right to criticize and even offend claims we find absurd.

 

 

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Brian37's picture

Tapey wrote:I am so glad the

Tapey wrote:

I am so glad the majority of atheists I know  are not anything like that, would annoy me to hell. For the most part christians are reasonable and do good things, the whole god thing when mixed with reasonable people turns out is not a big deal. Unreasonable people are always going to be unreasonable no matter their beliefs. If Kent Hovid or whatever his name is suddenly became an atheist do you really think he would be any more reasonable? Crazy people are crazy regardless of beliefs.

Tapey, you're well intended "cant we all just get along" attitude, AND WE SHOULD,  as a species, get along, is mistaking passion for hate.

I am quite sure he, like I do hates religious claims. Just like one  would hate it if they had a friend claiming the earth was flat.

He doesn't come across to me as "crazy". He comes across to me as rightfully pissed off considering all the modern science we have while humanity still thinks the earth is flat. Listen to what he says. Not once did he advocate violence or demand the oppression via government of believers. All he was saying is "Will you please knock it off".

We DO, which you seem to miss, have religious people trying to pry into the wombs of the bodies of women that are not their property. We do have religious people who think they have the legal right to prevent gays from entering marriage. We do have religious people trying to rewrite our public school science textbooks. Not to mention the GLOBAL affect that religious belief has caused in dividing humanity.

He doesn't live in a utopia otherwise he wouldn't have said that use of logic is the best murder weapon.

REASON is what he was calling for, not oppression.

"Crazy" is what religious people do trying to project their superstition on the rest of society.

 

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Sage_Override's picture

Hey, he stole my bit!  SUE

Hey, he stole my bit!  SUE HIM!! 

 

Seriously, though, I've been screaming this type of shit for YEARS.  It's all a joke and the moral majority, conservative Christians, whack-a-doo Pentecostals and every other belief system is just biding it's time.  I come across people from time to time that still hold on strong to their rhetoric and misgivings and they try hard to justify their stances, but it's just sad and miserable in the end because they know deep down that it's really just based on fear and brain washing. 

 

This guy and his Youtube aren't saying anything new, but the affirmation that there is a larger atheist community and movement out there is really positive because it helps put perspective on the whole thing and creates more voices like Dusty.

"When the majority believes in what is false, the truth becomes a quest." - Me

Philosophicus's picture

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He's right about the internet destroying religion, or at least forcing it to evolve.  Weed out the nonsense, religion. 

 

 

Louis_Cypher's picture

Yeppers...

I don't know about you guys, but I was raised in a society where sacred cows were well, sacred. The height of religious rebellion was changing from Pentecostal to Baptist and "godless" and "communist" were interchangeable. I remember "Dear Abby" advising a wife whose hubby expressed not believing in god to get him psychological counseling.

When I hit the Internet, we'd put up atheist themed rooms on various chat venues only to have them sabotaged by admins and buried in complaints from blue hairs because of our devil worshiping ways.

I came quickly to the opinion that what these folks needed was a good old fashioned bitch slap to wake them out of their complacency. Thus, I adopted my scorched earth, no prisoners taken approach. Yes, it's reactionary, and yes, it earns me few friends in the theistically impaired circles, but it works for me.

LC >;-}>
 

Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacraments of cannibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.

Brian37's picture

I am not for a any scorched

I am not for a any scorched earth policy, although I am for a scorched claim policy. When you know the lengths humans will go to defend their fantasies, even to the extent of hacking a forum over something non life threatening, it is further proof to me that no claim deserves a pedestal.

I have myself, earned even atheists as enemies. But considering the real damage even outside mere hacking, knowing what humans do in justifying violence in the name of a god, someone has to say "fuck you" to these types.

 

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I don't think religion is in

I don't think religion is in any danger of being eradicated.  For one thing, there are religions out there which aren't undergoing the kinds of attribution that is present in Christianity -- see the rate of conversion to Islam, if you need an example.

I think a better approach than the incessant yelling, cursing, "blasphemy", etc. that's in the video is getting people to understand that they don't have a monopoly on whatever religion they happen to embrace, including "none" -- though for many, I'd argue that Atheism =is= their religion. 

I also think Dusty is wrong about the role of religion on decision making.  People aren't locked into a specific dogma and often change denominations, sects or even entire religions.  If anything, I'd argue that religion is a reflection of underlying non-religious beliefs -- there are plenty of scientists who believe in Evolution and the Big Bang and still believe in some god and/or gods.  Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of Atheists who are classist, racist, nationalistic, and so on.

"Obviously I'm convinced of the existence of G-d. I'm equally convinced that Atheists who've led good lives will be in Olam HaBa going "How the heck did I wind up in this place?!?" while Christians who've treated people like dirt will be in some other place asking the exact same question."

Brian37's picture

FurryCatHerder wrote:I don't

FurryCatHerder wrote:

I don't think religion is in any danger of being eradicated.  For one thing, there are religions out there which aren't undergoing the kinds of attribution that is present in Christianity -- see the rate of conversion to Islam, if you need an example.

I think a better approach than the incessant yelling, cursing, "blasphemy", etc. that's in the video is getting people to understand that they don't have a monopoly on whatever religion they happen to embrace, including "none" -- though for many, I'd argue that Atheism =is= their religion. 

I also think Dusty is wrong about the role of religion on decision making.  People aren't locked into a specific dogma and often change denominations, sects or even entire religions.  If anything, I'd argue that religion is a reflection of underlying non-religious beliefs -- there are plenty of scientists who believe in Evolution and the Big Bang and still believe in some god and/or gods. you're just picking a fight

No one is suggesting or should  forced eradication. But religion does need to be knocked of it's pedestal, thus the rightful blasphemy.

And religion DOES affect your decision making. It affects everything from what you eat, to your education, to your politics. If it didn't Jews would eat bacon and you wouldn't support a theocracy.

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Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of Atheists who are classist, racist, nationalistic, and so on.

Yea, thats becaue we are all human. Which is why I am capable of knowing I am not special because of my atheism and you think you are special because you are Jewish. I have no dogma telling me I am special because of my label, race or politics.

Beyond is just as dogmatic about his economics as you are about your Jewishness.

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Lion IRC's picture

Earth to Dusty...Earth to Dusty...Come in - Over.

HELLO...? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME CULT OF DUSTY?

 

"The Internet" is optional.

 

You "click" what you WANT. You visit forums (fora) you want to visit. You can have your own little psycho-drama, virtual reality going on and ban people from visiting YOUR INTERNET - the one you... *cough* RULE, and live in an echo-chamber worshipping PZ Myers 24/7

 

Its a place where you can say stuff like "Atheists Rule the Internet" and sit there all day looking at the screen thinking the whole world will eventually read YOUR (usually made-up) stuff.

 

I mean, really. Come on! Listen to yourself.

Look at me. I'm on the internet. I'm smarter than everybody else.

 

Argumentum ad youtubiam is a joke.

 

Facebook Uber Alles is where people go when they discover not every internet discussion board is a nice place to chat. (I see this a LOT..."Im leaving this scumbag forum once and for all...you'll never see me back here...my real friends can find me on Facebook.)

 

Wikipedia as a reference source? Gimme a break. Try citing a Wiki source page on a high school exam essay.   

 

Duelling URL's ? Really? Is that the only way atheists hope to capture hearts and minds. I'm right. Just you go and check out ..

htttp:/www.stuff_I_cant_remember/explain /butitsreallygood_sothere_IWIN
 

Blogging? It's become so passé. Web-logging (a fad,) a novelty way of sharing unique, personal, focussed insights...

....HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of unique, personal, focussed insights all piling up, in a caché graveyard, like yesterdays' newspapers except that at least a newspaper can claim more readers than writers. Reading/viewing your own blog post 5 egotistical times is not the same as having a readership of 5.  

 

Atheists should be embarrassed to claim the internet as their Oracle of Delphi. Even more so, should they be embarrassed to think that the world was waiting for the internet to discover what atheism has to offer. 

 

Lion IRC's picture

Good one Brian37. Thats funny.

Brian37 wrote:

...And he is right about the internet. Every time I see a story in the news about atheists, and check the web, the dominate responses are atheists...

KEEP IT UP GUYS!

 

Good one Brian37. Thats funny. Keep em comin'

 

Every time casual web surfer Brian37 inadvertently comes across something on the internet which just so happens to be about atheists, Brian37 makes the completely impartial observation that... the dominate [sic] responses, for some strange, exciting reason are the ones made by - wait for it - OTHER ATHEISTS.

 

AMAZING.

 

Lion IRC's picture

Internet "dross"

What does A.C. Grayling - a New Atheist Horseman wannabe - think?

...the price we pay for the internet's open democracy is the rubbish it contains...

...its content has to be audited for reliability, and a system of classification introduced...

...Without such expert monitoring, the internet will increasingly be a problem rather than a boon, and limited in educational value..

 

Lots of "dross" on the internet Mr Grayling?

Take it up with the "owners"

 

Philosophicus's picture

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Lion IRC wrote:

"The Internet" is optional.

True.

 

Lion IRC wrote:

Its a place where you can say stuff like "Atheists Rule the Internet" and sit there all day looking at the screen thinking the whole world will eventually read YOUR (usually made-up) stuff.

If people watch videos about religion, eventually they'll come across an atheist video; they're related topics.  Maybe they'll come across the video by accident or be curious, or read an article about religion, politics, or science that's relevant for an atheist to post on.

 

Lion IRC wrote:

Argumentum ad youtubiam is a joke.

There are a lot of debates in the YouTube comments section.

 

Lion IRC wrote:

Wikipedia as a reference source? Gimme a break. Try citing a Wiki source page on a high school exam essay. 

Go to Wikipedia and look up a topic you know a lot about.

 

Lion IRC wrote:
 

Atheists should be embarrassed to claim the internet as their Oracle of Delphi. Even more so, should they be embarrassed to think that the world was waiting for the internet to discover what atheism has to offer.  

The internet is a great way to share information fast -- very fast.  And I'm not embarrassed.  It's unlikely that anyone one on the extremes will be converted, but the people towards the middle and the undecided ones can be influenced. 

Philosophicus's picture

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Lion IRC wrote:

What does A.C. Grayling - a New Atheist Horseman wannabe - think?

...the price we pay for the internet's open democracy is the rubbish it contains...

...its content has to be audited for reliability, and a system of classification introduced...

...Without such expert monitoring, the internet will increasingly be a problem rather than a boon, and limited in educational value..

 

Lots of "dross" on the internet Mr Grayling?

Take it up with the "owners" 

There is a lot of rubbish on the internet.  That's why we have to have critical thinking skills and know how to research.  It's not like the internet is the only or best source for knowledge -- we have books and college too -- but the internet is a great place to share knowledge.  It's like watching a lecture by Richard Dawkins on YouTube compared to reading his books -- you get a wealth of more information from his books.

Look at debates.  You can go to Google Videos and YouTube and watch amazing debates, but this doesn't compare to reading their books -- there's so much more information in their books.  Watching debates is educational too.  You get to see rhetorical skills (communication, style, body language, etc.), social interaction, an audience, an event.  It's a different experience and has its benefits.