Am I alone?

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I don't watch the news any more. I don't read it. I don't listen to it. I however do pick up stuff here and there.

Am I the only one who knows, who has known, the Trump is mentally ill? Seriously. Holy fucking shit batman. Holy fucking shit.

If Trump was any regular joe he would be the old man down at the end of your street who yells at kids who happen to lose their ball on his roof and complain to the HOA that all young adults are doing drugs and fucking in the streets.

If Trump wasn't well off he'd be in an asylum or on heavy doses of medication.

He's a fucking sick mother fucker, no, he's a sick daughter fucker.

We are all seriously fucked up. We are all in a world of crazy shit.

He's not just nuts or a little touched in the head. The guy is fucking bat shit crazy.

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my hope is he'll continue to

my hope is he'll continue to bog himself down in petty shit like inauguration crowd size, so that he won't have time to focus on things that could do real damage. i think the best survival strategy for america right now is for the media to just keep baiting him constantly, because his schoolyard bully personality won't let him ignore it. i hope they realize that.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson

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iwbiek wrote:my hope is

iwbiek wrote:
my hope is he'll continue to bog himself down in petty shit like inauguration crowd size, so that he won't have time to focus on things that could do real damage. i think the best survival strategy for america right now is for the media to just keep baiting him constantly, because his schoolyard bully personality won't let him ignore it. i hope they realize that.

 

John D. Gartner, a registered psychotherapist from the renowned Johns Hopkins University Medical School seems to think Trump may, in fact, be the one with the problem. Gartner, who teaches psychiatric residents at Hopkins, decided to break the ethical code known as the “Goldwater Rule” in order to warn the American public about the dangerousness of our new commander-in-chief’s mental state.

The “Goldwater Rule” is defined as “the informal term for part of the ethics code of the American Psychiatric Association saying it is wrong to provide a professional opinion of a public figure without examining that person and gaining consent to discuss the evaluation.”

Trump’s Democratic challenger, Hillary Clinton called it first. She said Trump is “temperamentally unfit” to serve as president, following his numerous sexist remarks about women, mocking of a disabled reporter, and blatantly racist statements about basically every single human being who isn’t white.

Gartner, who is also the author of In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography, says “Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president.”

According to USNews, Gartner unofficially diagnosed Trump with “malignant narcissism.” Although he himself has not personally examined Trump, Gartner claims it’s obvious from watching even a little of his behavior that he meets the diagnostic criteria for the disorder. Some of the characteristics include:

  • Anti-social behavior
  • Sadism
  • Aggressiveness
  • Paranoia
  • Grandiosity
  • Entitled
  • Regressed
  • Manipulative
  • Destructive
  • Egocentric
  • Use of projection
  • Lack of conscience
  • Narcissistic

Gartner says that individuals with malignant narcissism often lack impulse control and empathy. He also says many who suffer from this disorder believe that others around them don’t recognize their greatness.

‘We’ve seen enough public behavior by Donald Trump now that we can make this diagnosis indisputably,’ Gartner claims.

As Psychology Today notes, “Malignant Narcissists will go to great lengths to achieve their aim.  They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well-mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.”

Malignant narcissists are:

‘Determined to gratify their wishes and furious if thwarted. Their desire can be so consuming that there is little comprehension of, respect for or ability to empathize with the other.  They lack guilt or remorse and tend to feel or pronounce that it is they who have been mistreated. They can be of any gender, race or social class.’

As if that weren’t enough, malignant narcissism is incurable.

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digitalbeachbum

digitalbeachbum wrote:

  • Anti-social behavior
  • Sadism
  • Aggressiveness
  • Paranoia
  • Grandiosity
  • Entitled
  • Regressed
  • Manipulative
  • Destructive
  • Egocentric
  • Use of projection
  • Lack of conscience
  • Narcissistic

Where have you been the last 9 years? The same was said of Obama by the people that didn't like his policies and personality. Just Google Obama and each of these terms.

Trump is a nationalist, Obama was a globalist.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

  • Anti-social behavior
  • Sadism
  • Aggressiveness
  • Paranoia
  • Grandiosity
  • Entitled
  • Regressed
  • Manipulative
  • Destructive
  • Egocentric
  • Use of projection
  • Lack of conscience
  • Narcissistic

Where have you been the last 9 years? The same was said of Obama by the people that didn't like his policies and personality. Just Google Obama and each of these terms.

Trump is a nationalist, Obama was a globalist.

Wake up EXC... you are still dreaming. Come back to reality.

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 You are not alone Digital,

 You are not alone Digital, there are real articles from collge PHD proffessors questiong his stability. The sane saw this comming years ago, back when he perpetuated his birther crap. But the bulk of the sane were saying "WHAT THE FUCK" when he came down the escalator and made those vile comments about Mexicans. 

But yea, he has all the symbols of a sociopath and a bully, not to metion impulsive on top of that. I can only hope he jumps a shark eventually that not even the GOP can ignore. I don't think he can be put on a leash. I hope he trips himself up bad enough or gets impeached. The economic policies are bad enough more of Reagan's failed deregulaiton and tax breaks for the rich, that will add up to another future bubble, most likely worse than Bush Jr. But in the short term, I do worry about that nutfuck tweeting us into a war or shooting his mouth of in a press confrence, and putting Bannon, sick fuck who ran a conspiracy rag, favoring him over military experts is simply bat shit insane. 

"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

  • Anti-social behavior
  • Sadism
  • Aggressiveness
  • Paranoia
  • Grandiosity
  • Entitled
  • Regressed
  • Manipulative
  • Destructive
  • Egocentric
  • Use of projection
  • Lack of conscience
  • Narcissistic

Where have you been the last 9 years? The same was said of Obama by the people that didn't like his policies and personality. Just Google Obama and each of these terms.

Trump is a nationalist, Obama was a globalist.

Fuck you asshole, the two are NOT THE SAME and any asshole who would claim that about Obama is simply a delusional insecure gullible IDIOT.

Orwell meant 1984 as a warning, the GOP used it as a playbook. Nope sorry, you don't get to project your bullshit childish insecurities on Obama.

Obama bailed out the economy, added jobs all 8 years and cut the dept. He left the country way better than Bush Jr did. Now that he has left FUCKFACE, why are you not continuing to call him a tyrant, because that is what the GOP and their paranoid delusional voters said for 8 years. You got nothing now asshole. So when AND IT WILL HAPPEN when Celebrity Despot causes a crash or gets us into a war, DONT come bitching to me.

Its all on Trump now. Cant bitch about Obama now. 

"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under BrianJames Rational Poet also on twitter under Brianrrs37

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Someone needs a punch a

Someone needs a punch a face.

Trump also needs to bring back involuntary commitment to mental hospitals. All he does with every post is prove that the far left is mentally ill. He needs basket weaving to go along with his poetry.

 

 

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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EXC wrote: Someone needs a

EXC wrote:

Someone needs a punch a face.

Trump also needs to bring back involuntary commitment to mental hospitals. All he does with every post is prove that the far left is mentally ill. He needs basket weaving to go along with his poetry.

Trump would be the first one to go. He's fucking mental. He's beyond basket weaving. Trump needs to be heavily sedated and put in a rubber room with a lovely white canvas jacket.

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Yeah

 

Regardless of where you are on the political spectrum King Donald has obvious mental health issues. From the point of view of his supporters, I think they just want him to follow through on his campaign promises and don't care about the rest. If he does what he said they'll rejoice. Maybe his plan to isolate the U.S. behind high walls and to leave the world to fend for itself is the best option for the next 4 years. Strange and polarising times. 

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Atheistextremist

Atheistextremist wrote:

 

Regardless of where you are on the political spectrum King Donald has obvious mental health issues. From the point of view of his supporters, I think they just want him to follow through on his campaign promises and don't care about the rest. If he does what he said they'll rejoice. Maybe his plan to isolate the U.S. behind high walls and to leave the world to fend for itself is the best option for the next 4 years. Strange and polarising times. 

I've known the guy was mental from day one. I baffles me that people, like my family and some friends, do not think he is crazy. I personally think he is bat shit crazy, off the deep end, six short of a six pack.

I would have rather had Ohio Govener Kasich. He was the best pick of all the GOP.

 

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Oh come on, you are all that

Oh come on, you are all that gullible? Of course it is a shtick Obama and Trump both put on to make infantile voters think only they can rescue them. The fact that it makes the other side go batshit crazy is part of the appeal. And it worked.

If anything the office turns people into meglomanics because we've allowed one person to have so much power. They both know how to manipulate emotions and are good actors playing the role of Messiah, that makes them smart not insane.

A true mentally ill person spends every waking moment obsessed that the president is out to get them. Is unable to function or comprehend basic facts because of past bullying has made them extremly paranoid. They suffer from extreme sexual frustration.

 

 

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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Brian37 wrote:EXC

Brian37 wrote:

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

  • Anti-social behavior
  • Sadism
  • Aggressiveness
  • Paranoia
  • Grandiosity
  • Entitled
  • Regressed
  • Manipulative
  • Destructive
  • Egocentric
  • Use of projection
  • Lack of conscience
  • Narcissistic

Where have you been the last 9 years? The same was said of Obama by the people that didn't like his policies and personality. Just Google Obama and each of these terms.

Trump is a nationalist, Obama was a globalist.

Fuck you asshole, the two are NOT THE SAME and any asshole who would claim that about Obama is simply a delusional insecure gullible IDIOT.

Orwell meant 1984 as a warning, the GOP used it as a playbook. Nope sorry, you don't get to project your bullshit childish insecurities on Obama.

Obama bailed out the economy, added jobs all 8 years and cut the dept. He left the country way better than Bush Jr did. Now that he has left FUCKFACE, why are you not continuing to call him a tyrant, because that is what the GOP and their paranoid delusional voters said for 8 years. You got nothing now asshole. So when AND IT WILL HAPPEN when Celebrity Despot causes a crash or gets us into a war, DONT come bitching to me.

Its all on Trump now. Cant bitch about Obama now. 

I'm still trying to figure out why you aren't a huge Trump supporter. In the matter of a couple weeks he has done more to end the "race to the bottom" that you have declared is the root of all evil. He has CEO's terrified that they are going to be targets of his tweets, if he gets his way outsourcing is going to be a thing of the past, free trade will end and Americans can look forward to a future of working in factories. On top of that, he has proposed infrastructure spending that makes Bama look miserly. Isn't that precisely what you have been advocating on this site for a decade?

 

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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EXC wrote:Oh come on, you

EXC wrote:

Oh come on, you are all that gullible? Of course it is a shtick Obama and Trump both put on to make infantile voters think only they can rescue them. The fact that it makes the other side go batshit crazy is part of the appeal. And it worked.

If anything the office turns people into meglomanics because we've allowed one person to have so much power. They both know how to manipulate emotions and are good actors playing the role of Messiah, that makes them smart not insane.

A true mentally ill person spends every waking moment obsessed that the president is out to get them. Is unable to function or comprehend basic facts because of past bullying has made them extremly paranoid. They suffer from extreme sexual frustration.

 

 

I agree. Trump's persona is as real as a WWF wrestler's. The danger of Trump is not that he is crazy, it is that he is sane and very effective. A crazy president could easily be neutered and live out his term getting nothing done. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory.

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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Beyond Saving wrote:I agree.

Beyond Saving wrote:
I agree. Trump's persona is as real as a WWF wrestler's. The danger of Trump is not that he is crazy, it is that he is sane and very effective. A crazy president could easily be neutered and live out his term getting nothing done. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory.

You are one of them. I'm not completely shocked, but I thought you would see through the bullshit.

EXC's picture

 Psychiatry is like climate

 Psychiatry is like climate science. If you're a scientist and you're honest and say "I don't know", you don't get money, fame, professorships, tenure, etc... So say anything to make yourself look like you're an authority.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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EXC wrote: Psychiatry is

EXC wrote:

 Psychiatry is like climate science. If you're a scientist and you're honest and say "I don't know", you don't get money, fame, professorships, tenure, etc... So say anything to make yourself look like you're an authority.

That's bullshit.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Beyond

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:
I agree. Trump's persona is as real as a WWF wrestler's. The danger of Trump is not that he is crazy, it is that he is sane and very effective. A crazy president could easily be neutered and live out his term getting nothing done. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory.

You are one of them. I'm not completely shocked, but I thought you would see through the bullshit.

One of who?

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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Beyond Saving

Beyond Saving wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:
I agree. Trump's persona is as real as a WWF wrestler's. The danger of Trump is not that he is crazy, it is that he is sane and very effective. A crazy president could easily be neutered and live out his term getting nothing done. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory.

You are one of them. I'm not completely shocked, but I thought you would see through the bullshit.

One of who?

"There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory"

That depends on how you look at it. You could be Pol Pot and get a lot of killing done or you could be Hitler and get a lot done. Just because you think Trump will get 'whatever' done during his stay doesn't mean it will be good.

Also, the guy is fucking bat shit mental. If he wasn't wealthy he'd be on a fucking street corner holding a sign shouting at people that he knows the word is coming to the end.

 

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he's a cheap hustler. if he

he's a cheap hustler. if he hadn't had daddy's money to go on, the cops in every town he passed through would've given him a ride to the city limits with a stern warning never to come back.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Beyond

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:
I agree. Trump's persona is as real as a WWF wrestler's. The danger of Trump is not that he is crazy, it is that he is sane and very effective. A crazy president could easily be neutered and live out his term getting nothing done. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory.

You are one of them. I'm not completely shocked, but I thought you would see through the bullshit.

One of who?

"There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is going to get more done than any President in living memory"

That depends on how you look at it. You could be Pol Pot and get a lot of killing done or you could be Hitler and get a lot done. Just because you think Trump will get 'whatever' done during his stay doesn't mean it will be good.

Also, the guy is fucking bat shit mental. If he wasn't wealthy he'd be on a fucking street corner holding a sign shouting at people that he knows the word is coming to the end.

 

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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iwbiek wrote:he's a cheap

iwbiek wrote:
he's a cheap hustler. if he hadn't had daddy's money to go on, the cops in every town he passed through would've given him a ride to the city limits with a stern warning never to come back.

Yep.

 

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Beyond Saving wrote:As

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

Quite a different comment from what you said previously.

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Beyond Saving wrote:As

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings

Everyone has the same political leanings: Give me free stuff(money, privledges, exclusive rights, etc...) at everyone else's expense or inconvenience. We just differ on what the free stuff is.

We all want to be a welfare queen, but very few are willing to admit this.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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digitalbeachbum wrote:EXC

digitalbeachbum wrote:

EXC wrote:

 Psychiatry is like climate science. If you're a scientist and you're honest and say "I don't know", you don't get money, fame, professorships, tenure, etc... So say anything to make yourself look like you're an authority.

That's bullshit.

OK then. How is that Trump and these scientists can have nearly identical DNA, have evolved through the same evolutionary processes, and yet have such totally diametrically opposite goals and motives. Why is it that Trump is 100% driven by greed, pride, vanity and selfishness, while scinetists at liberal univerisities and politicians like Obama and Hillary are 100% polar opposites?

Where is the science behind nearly identical DNA but polar opposite motivation? Is it like being gay where Trump was born this way? How are scientists able to always have such pure motives?

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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EXC wrote:Beyond Saving

EXC wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings

Everyone has the same political leanings: Give me free stuff(money, privledges, exclusive rights, etc...) at everyone else's expense or inconvenience. We just differ on what the free stuff is.

We all want to be a welfare queen, but very few are willing to admit this.

That's a false statement. I don't want any thing for free. I pay my taxes. I work for a living. I refuse to be a sponge. I refuse to be a burden on society.

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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

EXC wrote:

 Psychiatry is like climate science. If you're a scientist and you're honest and say "I don't know", you don't get money, fame, professorships, tenure, etc... So say anything to make yourself look like you're an authority.

That's bullshit.

OK then. How is that Trump and these scientists can have nearly identical DNA, have evolved through the same evolutionary processes, and yet have such totally diametrically opposite goals and motives. Why is it that Trump is 100% driven by greed, pride, vanity and selfishness, while scinetists at liberal univerisities and politicians like Obama and Hillary are 100% polar opposites?

Where is the science behind nearly identical DNA but polar opposite motivation? Is it like being gay where Trump was born this way? How are scientists able to always have such pure motives?

That question is bogus. There are too many variables involved. DNA isn't 100% of the directive for making a person. Experiences are too. Trump is driven by greed. He was never taught the lesson of humility or a simple life. He was born with a diamond spoon in his mouth and a gold plated diaper covered in precious stones. He is a 1% of 1%er.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:Beyond

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

Quite a different comment from what you said previously.

No, my original comment was on my belief that Trump will get a lot of stuff done, and made no comment as to whether or not I believe that is a good thing. You called him crazy, you are wrong and it is precisely because people consider his TV persona real that he has become president. Continuing to underestimate him will only work in his favor. Trump thrives when his opponents think he is crazy and react to his TV persona. He is very capable , very astute and very self aware. 

If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X

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Beyond Saving

Beyond Saving wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

Quite a different comment from what you said previously.

No, my original comment was on my belief that Trump will get a lot of stuff done, and made no comment as to whether or not I believe that is a good thing. You called him crazy, you are wrong and it is precisely because people consider his TV persona real that he has become president. Continuing to underestimate him will only work in his favor. Trump thrives when his opponents think he is crazy and react to his TV persona. He is very capable , very astute and very self aware. 




that doesn't seem to be the story the "rogue" white house staffers are telling through twitter. apparently he throws tantrums, retires to the family residence and refuses to come out, and is constantly heard saying, "who says i can't?" of course, it's up to you whether you believe it or not, but i've met a few stupid bullies in my life. they're often talented at surrounding themselves with capable but spineless people and cowing them into submission. i mean, how much of trump's business success is actually attributable to trump's abilities? especially since he didn't exactly pull himself up by his boot straps. i think he's a spoiled man-child who's been good at using talented doormats all his life. the problem is, washington is full of people just as ambitious as he, many of whom have the same bratty pedigree.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson

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Beyond Saving

Beyond Saving wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

Quite a different comment from what you said previously.

No, my original comment was on my belief that Trump will get a lot of stuff done, and made no comment as to whether or not I believe that is a good thing. You called him crazy, you are wrong and it is precisely because people consider his TV persona real that he has become president. Continuing to underestimate him will only work in his favor. Trump thrives when his opponents think he is crazy and react to his TV persona. He is very capable , very astute and very self aware. 

He is crazy. He's fucking mental. They guy needs to be on meds and stuck in a retirement community.

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iwbiek wrote:Beyond Saving

iwbiek wrote:
Beyond Saving wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

As someone with anarchist leanings, I think the less a president gets done the better as a general rule. 

Quite a different comment from what you said previously.

No, my original comment was on my belief that Trump will get a lot of stuff done, and made no comment as to whether or not I believe that is a good thing. You called him crazy, you are wrong and it is precisely because people consider his TV persona real that he has become president. Continuing to underestimate him will only work in his favor. Trump thrives when his opponents think he is crazy and react to his TV persona. He is very capable , very astute and very self aware. 


that doesn't seem to be the story the "rogue" white house staffers are telling through twitter. apparently he throws tantrums, retires to the family residence and refuses to come out, and is constantly heard saying, "who says i can't?" of course, it's up to you whether you believe it or not, but i've met a few stupid bullies in my life. they're often talented at surrounding themselves with capable but spineless people and cowing them into submission. i mean, how much of trump's business success is actually attributable to trump's abilities? especially since he didn't exactly pull himself up by his boot straps. i think he's a spoiled man-child who's been good at using talented doormats all his life. the problem is, washington is full of people just as ambitious as he, many of whom have the same bratty pedigree.

Exactly. The guy is unbalanced. He's unstable. He's mental.

I know Trump. He speaks just like my sister does. He acts like my sister. I knew it from the first time I heard one of his speeches. I knew what he was going to do and he's doing it now.

 

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digitalbeachbum wrote:That

digitalbeachbum wrote:

That question is bogus. There are too many variables involved. DNA isn't 100% of the directive for making a person. Experiences are too. Trump is driven by greed. He was never taught the lesson of humility or a simple life. He was born with a diamond spoon in his mouth and a gold plated diaper covered in precious stones. He is a 1% of 1%er.

But their are pleanty of billionaires that were born into wealth, but if they support the leftist/globalist/socialist agenda they are considered altrusitic. So people just decide one day I'm not going to be selfish, I'm going to not care about my own interests and pleasures. What would cause someone to work against their own self interest?

To buy into the theory that the media and society pushes, you would have to believe that some people work against their own self-interest and survival. Evolution obviously would have gotten rid of such creatures long ago.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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digitalbeachbum wrote:That's

digitalbeachbum wrote:

That's a false statement. I don't want any thing for free. I pay my taxes. I work for a living. I refuse to be a sponge. I refuse to be a burden on society.

So you are for 100% open borders and no labor or environmental protection laws? Or do you enjoy the privledges of citizenship? You're OK with a foreigner taking you job and instead you being dirt poor and unemployed? Or do you want government to control the market?

You want privledges that come at the expense of others. Your survival depends upon this.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen

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“Do not impose on others what you do not wish for yourself.”

By the Hoary hosts of Hoggoth . . .

By the Hoary hosts of Hoggoth . . .

 

  The willingness to give up one's own self interest(s) or wishes,  is a far nobler thing

 

 

“Do not impose on others what you do not wish for yourself.”

 

    

J.R.R. Tolkien
“Even the smallest person can change the course of the future”

~ J.R.R. Tolkien,  The Fellowship of the Ring
 

 

 



 

 

    New Testament books 

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, ..  for this is the Law and the Prophets"

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets"

 

 

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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

That question is bogus. There are too many variables involved. DNA isn't 100% of the directive for making a person. Experiences are too. Trump is driven by greed. He was never taught the lesson of humility or a simple life. He was born with a diamond spoon in his mouth and a gold plated diaper covered in precious stones. He is a 1% of 1%er.

But their are pleanty of billionaires that were born into wealth, but if they support the leftist/globalist/socialist agenda they are considered altrusitic. So people just decide one day I'm not going to be selfish, I'm going to not care about my own interests and pleasures. What would cause someone to work against their own self interest?

To buy into the theory that the media and society pushes, you would have to believe that some people work against their own self-interest and survival. Evolution obviously would have gotten rid of such creatures long ago.

There is only one President of the US. Those other rich people are not part of this conversation. It doesn't matter what agenda they follow.

 

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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

That's a false statement. I don't want any thing for free. I pay my taxes. I work for a living. I refuse to be a sponge. I refuse to be a burden on society.

So you are for 100% open borders and no labor or environmental protection laws? Or do you enjoy the privledges of citizenship? You're OK with a foreigner taking you job and instead you being dirt poor and unemployed? Or do you want government to control the market?

You want privledges that come at the expense of others. Your survival depends upon this.

It's discussions like this that are bothersome. 100% open borders? no labor or environmental protection laws? privledges of citzenship? foreigners taking jobs? dirt poor? unemployed? government to control the market? what the fuck are you talking about? Come on dude. Stop writing messages like you don't know what you are talking about or else we will start calling you EXE37.

 

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EXC wrote:digitalbeachbum

EXC wrote:

digitalbeachbum wrote:

That question is bogus. There are too many variables involved. DNA isn't 100% of the directive for making a person. Experiences are too. Trump is driven by greed. He was never taught the lesson of humility or a simple life. He was born with a diamond spoon in his mouth and a gold plated diaper covered in precious stones. He is a 1% of 1%er.

But their are pleanty of billionaires that were born into wealth, but if they support the leftist/globalist/socialist agenda they are considered altrusitic. So people just decide one day I'm not going to be selfish, I'm going to not care about my own interests and pleasures. What would cause someone to work against their own self interest?

To buy into the theory that the media and society pushes, you would have to believe that some people work against their own self-interest and survival. Evolution obviously would have gotten rid of such creatures long ago.

No it wouldn't. You clearly don't understand evolution very well. Self destructive behaviours are highly unlikely to become traits of entire species, but individuals are absolutely not afforded the same probabilities. In fact, it is a certainty that many individuals will develop self destructive behaviours.

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